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Honda Civic Type R FK8 vs Subaru WRX STI VA

6 reviewers · 13 head-to-head calloutsTheStraightPipes · 1·Car Comparison TV · 1·FlyinGato · 1·Doug DeMuro · 1
// two characters, one road
Civic Type R FK8
The Stopwatch Car

K20C1 turbo four, front-drive, six-speed manual: on boost in half a second, quicker than the STI in every figure quoted, with a calmer ride and a shifter one tester calls the best he's ever used. Electric steering is the one place it gives ground.

Pick it if you want the quicker, more sorted car — less lag, shorter stops, a better ride and a superb manual — and you can live with electric steering and putting it all through the front wheels.

WRX STI VA
The Analogue Holdout

EJ257 flat-four, all-wheel drive and the only hydraulic steering rack in its group test: slower, laggier and bouncier, with a dated cabin, but more natural through the wheel and the one with 'personality'.

Pick it if you want hydraulic steering feel, all-wheel-drive launches you can be rough with, and a car with personality — and you'll accept turbo lag, a bouncy ride, a dated infotainment screen and heavy fuel use.

№ 00// bottom line

“The FK8 Civic Type R is the front-drive precision instrument that wins on the stopwatch; the VA WRX STI is the older, rougher all-wheel-drive car that wins through the steering wheel.

The Honda is the quicker car and nobody here argues it. Its K20C1 is on boost in about half a second where the STI's EJ257 makes you wait 'a full second or two', it stops shorter, and a reviewer who went back to the Subaru still concedes it 'just does not have the outright speed of the type r'. The Type R is also easier to live with: 'such a better ride than an STI', which gets called 'very bouncy', and a six-speed one tester rates 'the best I've ever used in any car ever'.

The STI answers with what the stopwatch can't see. It is the only car in its group test with hydraulic power steering, and three of the six reviewers single that out — it 'feels more natural'. Its all-wheel drive lets you 'be really aggressive with the clutch' and just go. Savagegeese enjoyed driving the Subaru more, and another reviewer says what brought him back to it was 'personality'.

The Type R is the more complete car; the STI is the one some of them would rather drive.

// scorecard at a glance
// the picks
Civic Type R FK8

you want the quicker, more sorted car — less lag, shorter stops, a better ride and a superb manual — and you can live with electric steering and putting it all through the front wheels.

WRX STI VA

you want hydraulic steering feel, all-wheel-drive launches you can be rough with, and a car with personality — and you'll accept turbo lag, a bouncy ride, a dated infotainment screen and heavy fuel use.

The deciding factor

Buy the FK8 Type R if you want the faster, more complete car: it out-accelerates and out-brakes the STI, rides better, and comes with a shifter one tester calls the best he's ever used. Buy the VA STI if steering feel and all-wheel-drive character matter more than pace — it's the more natural car through the wheel and the one two of these reviewers simply enjoyed more.

Where reviewers split

Pace isn't in dispute: the Type R is quicker in every figure quoted, and turbo lag is the STI's stated weakness. The split is on handling. Single-car reviews put the Type R's chassis at the top of the class ('absolutely unshakeable', 'the steering is perfect'), yet in direct comparison Doug DeMuro says the STI 'handles better' on a weekend drive and three reviewers prefer its hydraulic steering. Coverage note: six reviewers, one video each, all from 2017–2021; three of the six videos are reviews of the limited-run STI Type RA, and much of the Type R column comes from single-car FK8 reviews rather than back-to-back tests.

// the five aspects — one at a time
№ 01// the matchup

Performance

Civic Type R FK8wins
4.5/5
WRX STI VA
4.0/5
Civic Type R FK8 WINS— Civic Type R is faster, achieving 0-60 in 4.9 seconds compared to the STI's 5.3 seconds.· reviewers split
Civic Type RFK84.5/5positive2 clips

“honda civic type r will do 0 to 60 miles per hour in 4.9 seconds... suburu will do zero to 60 miles per hour in 5.3 seconds”

▶4:08Car Comparison TV · 4:08wins here

“braking distance from 70 miles per hour is 142 feet... subaru... 158 feet”

▶5:34Car Comparison TV · 5:34wins here
WRX STIVA4.0/5positive3 clips

“The STI gives you it probably a full second or two of lag before the turbo kicks in this thing maybe gives you half a second before the turbo kicks in”

▶5:59FlyinGato · 5:59trails here

“the all-wheel drive and the WRX STI makes a huge difference in terms of driving dynamics... you can pretty much be really aggressive with the clutch and just kind of given the beans”

▶3:39FlyinGato · 3:39wins here
№ 02// the matchup

Handling

Civic Type R FK8
5.0/5
WRX STI VAwins
4.5/5
WRX STI VA WINS— STI has more natural steering feel due to hydraulic assist.
Civic Type RFK85.0/5positive3 clips

“the civic type r is absolutely unshakeable no matter what you ask of it it always seems to have an answer”

▶17:09JayEmm on Cars · 17:09impression

“The front end and the taper is just so so sharp. The steering is perfect.”

▶16:01Throttle House · 16:01impression
WRX STIVA4.5/5positive4 clips

“The STI is the only car here with hydraulically assisted steering and right away I can tell it definitely feels more natural than the other to”

▶9:14TheStraightPipes · 9:14wins here

“I actually prefer the way the steering feels in the STI... I do prefer a good hydraulic power steering over a little cop over here”

▶5:14FlyinGato · 5:14wins here
№ 03// the matchup

Fun to drive

Civic Type R FK8
4.5/5
WRX STI VAwins
4.5/5
WRX STI VA WINS— Subaru is more engaging to drive despite being slower.
Civic Type RFK84.5/5positive3 clips

“The transmission is the best I've ever used in any car ever”

▶8:07TheStraightPipes · 8:07impression

“there is a fizziness to the type r that just isn't present anymore in most normal vehicles and that's probably my favorite thing about this”

▶2:43TheTopher · 2:43impression
WRX STIVA4.5/5positive2 clips

“I enjoy driving the Subaru more than the other two.”

▶20:56Savagegeese · 20:56wins here

“one thing that it does have that actually brought me back to it is personality”

▶27:00Raitis Rides · 27:00wins here
№ 04// the matchup

Daily drivability

Civic Type R FK8wins
4.0/5
WRX STI VA
3.0/5
Civic Type R FK8 WINS— STI infotainment is dated and slow compared to the Type R.
Civic Type RFK84.0/5positive

“it's just such a better ride than an STI when you want things to calm down the STI is very bouncy”

▶9:34FlyinGato · 9:34wins here
WRX STIVA3.0/5positive

“this STI has the slowest most dated infotainment system”

▶7:47TheStraightPipes · 7:47trails here
№ 05// the matchup

Value

Civic Type R FK8leans
4.0/5
WRX STI VA
3.0/5
Civic Type R FK8 LEANS AHEAD— on the scores
Civic Type RFK84.0/5positive3 clips

“I do I believe strongly that this is the most fun I've had for 43 grand”

▶10:59Throttle House · 10:59impression

“that makes this a much more expensive proposition in the real world than the golf gti”

▶25:30JayEmm on Cars · 25:30impression
WRX STIVA3.0/5positive3 clips

“honestly I think Subaru has overpriced and I think I would pay 50 grand for this”

▶54:50Redline Reviews · 54:50impression

“the type ra is a lot of fun but it's overpriced at fifty thousand dollars without more changes over the regular sti”

▶23:49Doug DeMuro · 23:49impression
№ 06// the footage

Hear it in the reviewer’s words

FlyinGato
Posted Oct 5, 2018Open on YouTube
Moments worth your time
Raitis Rides
Posted Aug 10, 2020Open on YouTube
Moments worth your time
Car Comparison TV
Posted Jan 12, 2021Open on YouTube
Moments worth your time
Civic Type R FK8 on video
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WRX STI VA on video
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