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Subaru BRZ ZD8 vs Toyota GR86 ZN8

35 reviewers · 120 head-to-head calloutsTheTopher · 13·Redline Reviews · 8·Jubbal & Cars · 6·Zygrene · 6
// two characters, one road
BRZ ZD8
The Grown-Up Twin

The softer, more isolated read on the FA24 — a more absorbent rear, the interior reviewers call nicer, and a tune that stays a little more planted at the limit.

Pick it if you want the slightly more comfortable, nicer-trimmed twin with a more planted tune — and you prefer the Subaru side of the aisle.

GR86 ZN8
The Frisky Twin

The tail-happier read — more nimble, quicker to rotate, tuned to understeer less, and the one still sold as a stripped, cheaper base trim to build from.

Pick it if you want the more rotate-happy setup, the marginally lower price, and a bare base trim as a starting point.

№ 00// bottom line

“Same FA24 boxer, same chassis, same six-speed — separated by a suspension tune and a badge.

The GR86 is the friskier read on the recipe: reviewers find it more nimble, quicker to rotate, and tuned to understeer less — the tail-happier twin that still offers a bare, cheaper base trim.

The BRZ plays it a touch more grown-up: a softer rear that isolates a bad road better, an interior most reviewers call the nicer place to sit, and a Subaru tune that leans a little safer and more planted.

On the things that matter most — steering, balance, naturally-aspirated purity — they're dead even; the choice is a tuning preference and a dealer, not a better car.

// the picks
BRZ

you want the slightly more comfortable, nicer-trimmed twin with a more planted tune — and you prefer the Subaru side of the aisle.

GR86

you want the more rotate-happy setup, the marginally lower price, and a bare base trim as a starting point.

The deciding factor

They share the FA24, the chassis and the six-speed, so this is a tuning-and-dealer call: take the GR86 for the friskier, less-understeery tune and the cheaper base trim; take the BRZ for the softer ride, the nicer cabin, and the more planted setup.

Where reviewers split

Reviewers agree on the important thing — steering feel, balance and the atmospheric engine are effectively identical — and split only on character: the same drivers call the GR86 more eager to rotate with less understeer, then hand the BRZ the more comfortable ride and the nicer interior. It's preference, not a verdict.

// the five aspects — one at a time
№ 01// the matchup

Performance

BRZ
4.0/5
GR86wins
4.0/5
GR86 WINS— GR86 is more nimble and easier to rotate.· reviewers split
BRZZD84.0/5positive3 clips

“I sto the stock pads on my BRZ and they are terrible... they're notorious for only lasting one track day”

▶9:42TheTopher · 9:42trails here

“the BRZ still doesn't feel underpowered just fun as it and its platform mate Toyota gr86 have from the very beginning”

▶3:37MotorWeek · 3:37even
GR86ZN84.0/5positive15 clips

“my car is also much more Nimble and like playful I can rotate it throw it around a little bit”

▶4:42Jubbal & Cars · 4:42wins here

“the actual the actual traction isn't as high as mine even though these are 245s”

▶6:57Jubbal & Cars · 6:57wins here
№ 02// the matchup

Handling

BRZ
4.5/5
GR86wins
4.5/5
GR86 WINS— GR86 exhibits less understeer than the BRZ.· reviewers split
BRZZD84.5/5positive27 clips

“Subaru wants this to feel a little bit more safe. Which means a little bit more understeer.”

▶18:12Savagegeese · 18:12trails here

“this car has an aluminum set of front knuckles, where the Toyota has steel”

▶5:21Savagegeese · 5:21wins here
GR86ZN84.5/5positive27 clips

“the gr86 doesn't understeer as much it still definitely understeers some”

▶3:37TheTopher · 3:37wins here

“on track there's just a little bit more refinement to the new cars handling”

▶8:16TheTopher · 8:16wins here
№ 03// the matchup

Fun to drive

BRZeven
4.5/5
GR86even
4.5/5
EVEN READ— no clear edge
BRZZD84.5/5positive3 clips

“this is the third one I've driven now and it's the most fun to drive because it's the most balanced”

▶14:51Zygrene · 14:51impression

“they're a little bit more of a purist experience behind the wheel”

▶33:34TheTopher · 33:34impression
GR86ZN84.5/5positive3 clips

“This is one of the best sports car I've driven this year.”

▶12:41Sam CarLegion · 12:41impression

“it's just a little tossable fun toy. I'm going to call it a toy because it's so lightweight and it's so responsive”

▶5:36RevMatchTV · 5:36impression
№ 04// the matchup

Daily drivability

BRZwins
4.0/5
GR86
3.5/5
BRZ WINS— BRZ is more comfortable due to softer rear suspension.· reviewers split
BRZZD84.0/5positive12 clips

“the BRZ is a little bit more comfortable because of that softer rear suspension”

▶5:17Zygrene · 5:17wins here

“the BRZ is just that extra bit softer, a little bit better at isolating you from a bad road.”

▶8:06Realistick · 8:06wins here
GR86ZN83.5/5positive4 clips

“The trade-off is the ride quality isn't quite as smooth as the Subaru's”

▶19:12Redline Reviews · 19:12trails here

“The standard audio system in the GR86 is 10 to 15% better than in the BRZ facelift or GT86.”

▶12:29P1TV · 12:29wins here
№ 05// the matchup

Value

BRZ
4.0/5
GR86wins
4.0/5
GR86 WINS— GR86 wins — still offers a base trim, unlike the BRZ.· reviewers split
BRZZD84.0/5positive6 clips

“I like the BRZ better honestly I take that as he used car before I'd buy a new 86”

▶8:32EverydayDriver · 8:32wins here

“when cross shopping between the 86 and the brz generally the brz has the nicer interior”

▶4:56The Fast Lane Car · 4:56wins here
GR86ZN84.0/5positive6 clips

“the Toyota GR86 still offers the base trim, which is what we're driving this week. It starts at $31,400.”

▶28:29Redline Reviews · 28:29wins here

“The GR86 is actually cheaper than this. Not by a lot, but still cheaper and cheaper.”

▶18:18The Car Care Nut Reviews · 18:18wins here
№ 06// the footage

Hear it in the reviewer’s words

Zygrene
Posted Jun 29, 2023Open on YouTube
Moments worth your time
Jubbal & Cars
Posted May 28, 2023Open on YouTube
Moments worth your time
Speed Academy
Posted Sep 30, 2019Open on YouTube
Moments worth your time
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