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Toyota GR86 ZN8 vs Mazda MX-5 Miata ND

18 reviewers · 78 head-to-head calloutsJubbal & Cars · 15·Realistick · 7·Redline Reviews · 5·ShootingCars · 3
// two characters, one road
GR86 ZN8
The Everyday Track Coupe

The more capable, more forgiving one — it pulls harder, rolls less, and gives you a longer leash when the tail steps out, then hauls a back seat and a sealed roof on the commute. The car reviewers tell you to learn rear-wheel drive in.

Pick it if you want one car that can learn rear-wheel drive on track, out-pace the Miata, and still swallow a weekly commute with back seats and a roof.

MX-5 Miata ND
The Open-Top Purist

The one you buy for the drive itself — the best shifter in the class, steering that reacts more naturally than the Toyota's, and a folding roof that keeps reviewers immersed even after they admit the GR86 is the quicker, comfier car.

Pick it if you'll give up grip, pace, and practicality for the shifter, the more natural steering, and the open-top connection — the things that make reviewers say they'd buy the MX-5 again.

№ 00// bottom line

“Capability against connection — the coupe that does more versus the roadster that feels more.

The GR86 is the more complete car: it pulls harder, stays flatter, hands you a longer, more forgiving leash when the tail moves, then carries back seats and a fixed roof home.

The MX-5 trades all of that for feel — the better shifter, the more natural steering rack, an open top that keeps you in the moment even when the GR86 is the quicker, comfier choice.

One is the better tool; the other is the better toy.

// scorecard at a glance
// the picks
GR86

you want one car that can learn rear-wheel drive on track, out-pace the Miata, and still swallow a weekly commute with back seats and a roof.

MX-5 Miata

you'll give up grip, pace, and practicality for the shifter, the more natural steering, and the open-top connection — the things that make reviewers say they'd buy the MX-5 again.

The deciding factor

Buy the GR86 if your best day is a track day and the car still has to commute on Monday — it's the more capable, more forgiving, more practical pick. Buy the MX-5 if the drive is the point: the shifter, the steering, and the open roof win on feel even when they lose on the stopwatch.

Where reviewers split

Handling is the one axis reviewers genuinely split on. The same drivers call the GR86 'more capable in every way' on track and far easier to catch when the tail lets go, then hand the MX-5 the more natural steering rack and the more mechanical, more immersive connection. Track-day logic leans GR86; steering-feel romantics lean Miata.

// the five aspects — one at a time
№ 01// the matchup

Performance

GR86wins
4.0/5
MX-5 Miata
4.0/5
GR86 WINS— GR86 is more powerful and has beaten the Miata for years.· reviewers split
GR86ZN84.0/5positive4 clips

“this typically gets to 60 a couple T quicker than the Miata and its lead continues to stretch over the 1/4 mile”

▶6:43Realistick · 6:43wins here

“the new gr86 can finally take on the nd2 miata in straight line speed”

▶13:21Throttle House · 13:21wins here
MX-5 MiataND4.0/5positive6 clips

“It is way underpowered comparatively to other sports cars on the market, particularly the GR86. The GR86 has beaten it for a few years now.”

▶11:12ShootingCars · 11:12trails here

“this transmission is Sublime it is better to use than the gr86s”

▶4:13Jubbal & Cars · 4:13wins here
№ 02// the matchup

Handling

GR86wins
4.5/5
MX-5 Miata
5.0/5
GR86 WINS— Miata wins — double wishbone front end is superior to the GR86's setup.· reviewers split
GR86ZN84.5/5positive10 clips

“It's way sharper than an ND MX-5. It has a quicker steering rack.”

▶6:18Roads Untraveled · 6:18wins here

“I think the GR86 is a bit more approachable. It has a longer wheelbase, which means that it's more stable as well. Um, trail braking with rotation is also a lot easier to induce with the Miata, whereas with the GR86, a lot harder.”

▶14:08Jubbal & Cars · 14:08wins here
MX-5 MiataND5.0/5positive16 clips

“the front end with double wishbone is so much better than something like a GR86 that I was driving before.”

▶5:43Jubbal & Cars · 5:43wins here

“You have better suspension geometry with double wishbone rather than McFersonson strut.”

▶0:45Jubbal & Cars · 0:45wins here
№ 03// the matchup

Fun to drive

GR86
4.5/5
MX-5 Miatawins
5.0/5
MX-5 Miata WINS— Miata wins — easier to keep progressing as a driver compared to the GR86.· reviewers split
GR86ZN84.5/5positive3 clips

“the GR86 just doesn't do that. There's like they can't replicate the experience that I'm having right now.”

▶3:23Realistick · 3:23trails here

“I do consider the GR86 to be a better learning tool than something like a Miata... because the Miata has a very short wheelbase and as a result I think quicker hands are usually necessary and the GR86 is a little bit more progressive.”

▶15:38Jubbal & Cars · 15:38wins here
MX-5 MiataND5.0/5positive11 clips

“I think it's easier to plateau with the GR86 and BRZ whereas the Miata allows you to keep progressing as a driver in a way.”

▶15:43Jubbal & Cars · 15:43wins here

“I would take a Miata over this. I love the GR86. It's fantastic, but the MX5 is more fun to for me.”

▶13:18Kirk Kreifels · 13:18wins here
№ 04// the matchup

Daily drivability

GR86wins
3.5/5
MX-5 Miata
3.5/5
GR86 WINS— GR86 is more practical for a single-vehicle owner.· reviewers split
GR86ZN83.5/5positive21 clips

“if you have only one vehicle, the GR86 is the better buy because it's so much more practical.”

▶0:16Jubbal & Cars · 0:16wins here

“you can carry passengers in uncomfortable so there is a trade-off to all that fun to drive part”

▶2:32Savagegeese · 2:32wins here
MX-5 MiataND3.5/5positive4 clips

“I prefer a Toyota GR86 because although the back seats are unusable, the back seats being there allows you to recline the seat a lot.”

▶7:11ShootingCars · 7:11trails here

“The materials don't feel near as cheap as something like the GR86.”

▶21:46Realistick · 21:46wins here
№ 05// the matchup

Value

GR86wins
4.0/5
MX-5 Miata
4.5/5
GR86 WINS— Toyota 86 is more affordable than the Miata.
GR86ZN84.0/5positive3 clips

“for that price there is no new car that is even remotely this fun to drive”

▶7:24Zygrene · 7:24impression

“30 grand for a car as fun as this.”

▶8:18EverydayDriver · 8:18impression
MX-5 MiataND4.5/5positive

“the Miata is actually like a new Miata is actually quite a lot more money than this car is”

▶9:35Throttle House · 9:35trails here
№ 06// the footage

Hear it in the reviewer’s words

Realistick
Posted Jun 8, 2024Open on YouTube
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Jubbal & Cars
Posted Apr 10, 2023Open on YouTube
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EverydayDriver
Posted Mar 1, 2018Open on YouTube
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